Dialect Advice please

topic posted Wed, October 25, 2006 - 1:26 PM by  missadventure
ma' sallamah,

I finally have some time off coming up and plan to study arabic abroad in either Tunisia, Egypt or both.

I met a guy who spoke several dialects who offered up this advice:

Forget the rest and only learn MSA. Everyone will understand you and will do their utmost to help you out by speaking in a way you will understand.

Seems reasonable. What do you think?

Shukran,
m
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missadventure
SF Bay Area
  • Re: Dialect Advice please

    Wed, October 25, 2006 - 3:15 PM
    I agree, learn the language first before getting into dialects. Most everyone will be able to understand you then, and you will come across as proper and polite...important in prevent faux pas until you really have a frim grasp and understanding of the language. Once you know MSA, you can pick up colloquial language as well as dialects.

    Hope that helps,
    Salihah
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    Re: Dialect Advice please

    Thu, October 26, 2006 - 10:39 AM
    you won't have trouble when speaking to people, usually, unless they're very rural and/or very uneducated. MSA is the language of TV broadcasts, etc. Most people are exposed to and understand it.

    Where you could run into trouble is in understanding people-- not everyone will respond to you in MSA, though they will likely try their best to help you out.

    MSA then a dialect is definitely the way to go, if you want a proper understanding of the language that's widely usable asap. Otherwise, most people understand the egyptian dialect, because egypt produces most movies and television shows. It is a peculiar dialect though (well, they all are..) and again you may not understand everyone trying to respond to you. MSA is a LOT more formal (think BBC english) but you'd want to have that grammar eventually, and it's much easier to do MSA first then a dialect, rather than the other way around.

    Both egypt and tunisia have programs that allow you to study MSA and dialect. Tunisian arabic is closer to MSA.
  • Re: Dialect Advice please

    Tue, November 14, 2006 - 10:27 PM

    " ma' sallamah "

    I just wanted to point out that the word of greetings you opened your post with (above) is usually used to say "goodbye" rather than "hello," or such, as you intended. Literally, it means "with safety," but it is commonly used as "go in peace," or "be safe," rather than an opening salutation. What you want to say is "as-salamu 'aleikum," which means "peace be upon (or "with") you." "You" being the plural pronoun.



  • Re: Dialect Advice please

    Sat, November 18, 2006 - 7:15 AM
    Congratulations, when are you going and for how long?

    Study MSA in the classroom, then when you talk with people informally you can also ask how it would be said in dialect.
    • Re: Dialect Advice please

      Sun, November 19, 2006 - 7:54 PM
      Thanks, my trip starts this summer - and lasts a few months - I can't wait.

      I find it so much easier to learn a language when you are travelling in the country because of the immediate reward of getting to talk to people every day.

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